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Tablature and midi

rooss
Hi,


I was wondering, is it possible to hear the new tab features like bends,
hammerons etc in the generated midi file? Or is some extra work needed
to get this done if it is possible at all?


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Re: Tablature and midi

Marc Hohl
Grammostola Rosea schrieb:
> Hi,
>
>
> I was wondering, is it possible to hear the new tab features like
> bends, hammerons etc in the generated midi file? Or is some extra work
> needed to get this done if it is possible at all?
>
I am no MIDI specialist - I think bends could be realised with a
portamento effect, hammerons could be simulated
with a legato note for the first note, so the sound of the first note
will last to the very beginning of the second note etc., but I don't
know how to implement it.

If anyone would be interested in trying to do so, search for articulate
in the archives - Peter Chubb
implemented articulations in the MIDI output, but unfortunately, he
doesn't seem to continue his work,
but this file demonstrates the way how to manipulate notes for the
desired effects. Actually, I don't
have the time to cover MIDI output...

Marc
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Re: Tablature and midi

rooss
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Grammostola Rosea wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> I was wondering, is it possible to hear the new tab features like
> bends, hammerons etc in the generated midi file? Or is some extra work
> needed to get this done if it is possible at all?
>
Julian,

How about you? Do you have the skills to do this?

Kind regards,

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Re: Tablature and midi

rooss
[hidden email] wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:23:18 +0200, Grammostola Rosea
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>> Grammostola Rosea wrote:
>>    
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I was wondering, is it possible to hear the new tab features like
>>> bends, hammerons etc in the generated midi file? Or is some extra work
>>> needed to get this done if it is possible at all?
>>>
>>>      
>> Julian,
>>
>> How about you? Do you have the skills to do this?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>
>>    
>
> Hi Rosea, how are you ?
>
> Sorry the delay, my modem was broken (i´m on a cyber right now)
>
> MIDI have standard event messages for pitch bends.
> these events modifies the pitch of all notes sounding on a channel.
>
> So you can use them for guitar bends, slides, vibrato, tremolo bars, etc..
> as we use in tuxguitar.
>
> for a vibrato as example, what we do is to add some MIDI Pitch Bend
> messages Up-Down-Up-Down..
> every X ticks, so it gives you something like a real vibrato..
>
> but for hammers, and these things there are nothing todo with MIDI.
> i, on tuxguitar only made a lower velocity to the hammer note.
> so in theory it sounds like you didn´t play the note with your right
> hand..
> but.. the real true is that it don´t sound as a real hammer :)
>
> same for dead notes, there is nothing todo with MIDI,  we just add notes
> with very lower durations
> to try simulate the note is not played at all..
>
> I hope it helps for something..
>
>  
Thanks Julian,

Maybe you can add some code which you have also for tuxguitar midi to
lilypond midi?
Would be nice.

Regards,

\rooz



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rooss
Julian Casadesus wrote:

> Grammostola Rosea <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>  
>> [hidden email] wrote:
>>    
>>> On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 11:23:18 +0200, Grammostola Rosea
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>  
>>>      
>>>> Grammostola Rosea wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering, is it possible to hear the new tab features like
>>>>> bends, hammerons etc in the generated midi file? Or is some extra work
>>>>> needed to get this done if it is possible at all?
>>>>>
>>>>>      
>>>>>          
>>>> Julian,
>>>>
>>>> How about you? Do you have the skills to do this?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>> Hi Rosea, how are you ?
>>>
>>> Sorry the delay, my modem was broken (i´m on a cyber right now)
>>>
>>> MIDI have standard event messages for pitch bends.
>>> these events modifies the pitch of all notes sounding on a channel.
>>>
>>> So you can use them for guitar bends, slides, vibrato, tremolo bars, etc..
>>> as we use in tuxguitar.
>>>
>>> for a vibrato as example, what we do is to add some MIDI Pitch Bend
>>> messages Up-Down-Up-Down..
>>> every X ticks, so it gives you something like a real vibrato..
>>>
>>> but for hammers, and these things there are nothing todo with MIDI.
>>> i, on tuxguitar only made a lower velocity to the hammer note.
>>> so in theory it sounds like you didn´t play the note with your right
>>> hand..
>>> but.. the real true is that it don´t sound as a real hammer :)
>>>
>>> same for dead notes, there is nothing todo with MIDI,  we just add notes
>>> with very lower durations
>>> to try simulate the note is not played at all..
>>>
>>> I hope it helps for something..
>>>
>>>  
>>>      
>> Thanks Julian,
>>
>> Maybe you can add some code which you have also for tuxguitar midi to
>> lilypond midi?
>> Would be nice.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> \rooz
>>
>>    
>
> Well tuxguitar is written in java, and lilypond .. i don't know :) (is it in C ? )
> So i think it may be better to write new code for lilypond..
> following the lilypond development structure and design.
>
> It don't should be hard to do it.. but i need to see the lilypond's source code to make sure..
>
> i'll try to take a look next week if i find free time..
> but i'll be very busy because i couldn't work this week because internet problems.
> so i can't promise nothing early..
>
>
>  
Man, that would be great!

I doesn't have to be ready in a few weeks, so take your time.

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

\r